ALESIS S4 Plus Reference Manual
Setting Up: Chapter 1S4 Plus Reference Manual 9About Audio CablesThe connections between the S4 Plus and your studio are your music’s lifeline, souse
Editing Effects: Chapter 7S4 Plus Reference Manual 99Gated. Gated Reverb is a very popular effect on drums first found on English recordsin the early
Chapter 7: Editing Effects100 S4 Plus Reference ManualReverb (Page 4)DensityDensity controls how the first reflection of the reverb effect will appear
Editing Effects: Chapter 7S4 Plus Reference Manual 101DelayThe Delay function is used to edit Delay parameters.Delay (Page 1)The S4 Plus’s effects pro
Chapter 7: Editing Effects102 S4 Plus Reference ManualPitchThe Pitch function is used to edit Pitch parameters.Pitch (Page 1)The first page of the Pit
Editing Effects: Chapter 7S4 Plus Reference Manual 103Stereo Chorus. In the case of a Stereo Chorus, the signal is split into three partswith a dry si
Chapter 7: Editing Effects104 S4 Plus Reference ManualStereo Flange. In the case of the Stereo Flange, the signal is split into three partswith a dry
Editing Effects: Chapter 7S4 Plus Reference Manual 105Pitch (Page 2)If the Pitch type is Mono Chorus, Stereo Chorus, Mono Flange or Stereo Flange,page
Chapter 7: Editing Effects106 S4 Plus Reference ManualModThe Mod Function lets you control various effects parameters from the various controlson your
Editing Effects: Chapter 7S4 Plus Reference Manual 107the mod wheel as the Source, the mod wheel could be programmed to cause theReverb to increase th
Chapter 7: Editing Effects108 S4 Plus Reference ManualEQThe shelving EQ is only available in Configuration #s 4 and 5. It provides bass andtreble boos
Chapter 1: Setting Up10 S4 Plus Reference ManualA Word About Sound BridgeIncluded with the S4 Plus is a 3-1/2" floppy disk containing a software
Editing Effects: Chapter 7S4 Plus Reference Manual 109Overdrive ThresholdThis sets the level the signal feeding the Overdrive effect must be reach bef
Chapter 7: Editing Effects110 S4 Plus Reference Manual
Global Settings: Chapter 8S4 Plus Reference Manual 111CHAPTER 8GLOBAL SETTINGSGlobal Edit Mode is where you will find several parameters which affect
Chapter 8: Global Settings112 S4 Plus Reference Manualtranspose all sounds. Quad Knob [4] adjusts the S4 Plus’s overall Master Tuning (-99to +99/up or
Global Settings: Chapter 8S4 Plus Reference Manual 113Reset Controllers A – DFound on Global Edit Page 4, the “A–D Reset” function (On/Off) determines
Chapter 8: Global Settings114 S4 Plus Reference ManualMIDI Program SelectIn Page 6 of Global Edit mode, Quad Knob [1] determines the MIDI Program Sele
Global Settings: Chapter 8S4 Plus Reference Manual 115If, additionally, a new Bank is selected in Mix Play Mode and any Channel’s MIDI Outparameter (M
Chapter 8: Global Settings116 S4 Plus Reference Manual
MIDI Transfer and Storage Operations: Chapter 9S4 Plus Reference Manual 117CHAPTER 9MIDI TRANSFER AND STORAGEOPERATIONSSaving the User Bank to an Exte
Chapter 9: MIDI Transfer and Storage Operations118 S4 Plus Reference ManualStoring an Individual Program or Mix to an ExternalCardYou also have the op
Your First Session With The S4 Plus: Chapter 2S4 Plus Reference Manual 11CHAPTER 2YOUR FIRST SESSION WITH THES4 PLUSPowering UpAfter making your conne
MIDI Transfer and Storage Operations: Chapter 9S4 Plus Reference Manual 119Card Storage RAMificationsWhenever you transfer an internal Bank to a RAM c
Chapter 9: MIDI Transfer and Storage Operations120 S4 Plus Reference ManualTo send the entire User bank via MIDI:¿ Connect a MIDI cable from the S4 Pl
Troubleshooting: Appendix AS4 Plus Reference Manual 121APPENDIX ATROUBLE-SHOOTINGTrouble-Shooting IndexIf you are experience problems while operating
Appendix A: Troubleshooting122 S4 Plus Reference ManualChecking Software VersionThe current software version may be determined by holding [GLOBAL] and
Troubleshooting: Appendix AS4 Plus Reference Manual 123Field repairs are not normally authorized during the warranty period, and repairattempts by unq
Appendix A: Troubleshooting124 S4 Plus Reference Manual
MIDI Supplement: Appendix BS4 Plus Reference Manual 125APPENDIX BMIDI SUPPLEMENTMIDI BasicsMost current electronic instruments and signal processors,
Appendix B: MIDI Supplement126 S4 Plus Reference Manualhave a channel number and are received by all units in a system, include Common,Real Time, and
MIDI Supplement: Appendix BS4 Plus Reference Manual 1274 Foot Controller (0-127)5 Portamento Time (0-127)6 Data Slider (0-127)7 Main Volume (0-127)8 B
Appendix B: MIDI Supplement128 S4 Plus Reference ManualSystem Common MessagesIntended for all units in a system, some of these MIDI messages are:Song
Chapter 2: Your First Session With The S4 Plus12 S4 Plus Reference ManualPlaying the Demo SequenceThe S4 Plus has a built-in demo sequence which demon
MIDI Supplement: Appendix BS4 Plus Reference Manual 129There are three MIDI registered parameters which the S4 plus will recognize in MixPlay Mode whe
MIDI Implementation Chart130 S4 Plus Reference ManualMIDI IMPLEMENTATION CHARTFunction Transmitted Recognized RemarksBasicChannelDefaultChanged1 — 161
Parameters Index: Appendix CS4 Plus Reference Manual 131APPENDIX C:PARAMETERS INDEXProgram ParametersParameter Function PageQuadKnobPage inManualAfter
Appendix C: Parameters Index132 S4 Plus Reference ManualMod. Wheel Level: FLFO FLFO 2 2 70Modulation Destination Mod 1–6 2 66Modulation: Gate Mode Mod
Parameters Index: Appendix CS4 Plus Reference Manual 133Voice Select: Sound Name Assign Voice 1 3 54Volume Level 1 1 55Mix ParametersParameter Functio
Appendix C: Parameters Index134 S4 Plus Reference Manual
What’s New in the 2.0 “Plus” Upgrade: Appendix DS4 Plus Reference Manual 135APPENDIX DWHAT’S NEW IN THE 2.0 “PLUS”UPGRADEIf you have upgraded your S4
Appendix D: What’s New in the 2.0 “Plus” Upgrade136 S4 Plus Reference ManualSelecting Programs and MixesWhen in Program Play Mode or Mix Play Mode, th
What’s New in the 2.0 “Plus” Upgrade: Appendix DS4 Plus Reference Manual 137Here is a list of the new samples that accompany the 2.0 “Plus” upgrade (*
Appendix D: What’s New in the 2.0 “Plus” Upgrade138 S4 Plus Reference ManualNew Front Panel FunctionsTo make it easy to navigate through the hundreds
Your First Session With The S4 Plus: Chapter 2S4 Plus Reference Manual 13Playing the S4 PlusThe S4 Plus is shipped from the factory with 5 Banks of 12
What’s New in the 2.0 “Plus” Upgrade: Appendix DS4 Plus Reference Manual 139Performance Controls via the Quad KnobsThe four Quad Knobs now provide dir
Appendix D: What’s New in the 2.0 “Plus” Upgrade140 S4 Plus Reference ManualGlobal Edit ModeController A–D ResetA new parameter, called “A–D Reset”, h
What’s New in the 2.0 “Plus” Upgrade: Appendix DS4 Plus Reference Manual 141Program Play ModeEnvelope Delay HoldEach of the three envelopes in a singl
Appendix D: What’s New in the 2.0 “Plus” Upgrade142 S4 Plus Reference ManualAmong the 6 possible modulation routings, routings 4 through 6 have had th
What’s New in the 2.0 “Plus” Upgrade: Appendix DS4 Plus Reference Manual 1430100POINTS: 012345678910NORMAL0100POINTS: 012345678910STEPPEDDrum VoicesAm
Appendix D: What’s New in the 2.0 “Plus” Upgrade144 S4 Plus Reference ManualEffects ModeImproved Reverb AlgorithmsAll of the reverb algorithms have be
What’s New in the 2.0 “Plus” Upgrade: Appendix DS4 Plus Reference Manual 145by a Chorus effect, which can be either a Mono Chorus, Mono Flange or Reso
Appendix D: What’s New in the 2.0 “Plus” Upgrade146 S4 Plus Reference ManualMix Play ModeAssigning ProgramsIn Mix Edit Mode, the “Bank” and “Program”
What’s New in the 2.0 “Plus” Upgrade: Appendix DS4 Plus Reference Manual 147Receiving ControllersA third Page has been added to the Range function in
Appendix D: What’s New in the 2.0 “Plus” Upgrade148 S4 Plus Reference ManualGeneral MIDIEnabling General MIDI ModeThe version 2.0 “Plus” upgrade now m
Chapter 2: Your First Session With The S4 Plus14 S4 Plus Reference ManualAuditioning Internal Programs¿ Press the [PROGRAM] button to select Program P
What’s New in the 2.0 “Plus” Upgrade: Appendix DS4 Plus Reference Manual 149Channel of the Mix. If the Channel is selected using the MIDI [¨] and [Æ]
Appendix D: What’s New in the 2.0 “Plus” Upgrade150 S4 Plus Reference Manual Example: Let’s say you are using a MIDI sequencer to play back a sequence
What’s New in the 2.0 “Plus” Upgrade: Appendix DS4 Plus Reference Manual 151Store ModeWhen Store Mode is accessed, the display in Page 1 will now indi
Appendix D: What’s New in the 2.0 “Plus” Upgrade152 S4 Plus Reference Manual• Any PCMCIA Type I SRAM Card• All AMD 'C' series and 'D&ap
What’s New in the 2.0 “Plus” Upgrade: Appendix DS4 Plus Reference Manual 153into the internal User Bank, the Mixes in the User Bank are automaticallyr
Appendix D: What’s New in the 2.0 “Plus” Upgrade154 S4 Plus Reference Manual
IndexS4 Plus Reference Manual 155INDEX48 kHz CLOCK IN 22, 115ADAT 22Aftertouch 15amp 59filter 58pitch 55AI-1 22COMPARE 25, 31Controllers A – D 15, 112
Your First Session With The S4 Plus: Chapter 2S4 Plus Reference Manual 15Realtime Performance FunctionsThe S4 Plus provides various ways to control th
Chapter 2: Your First Session With The S4 Plus16 S4 Plus Reference ManualKnob [1], you adjust the setting of the first parameter on the left. Turning
Your First Session With The S4 Plus: Chapter 2S4 Plus Reference Manual 17Editing a MixIn this section, we will assign Programs to and set volume level
Chapter 2: Your First Session With The S4 Plus18 S4 Plus Reference ManualSetting the Effects LevelEach Program can use up to four Sounds, for either l
S4 Plus Reference Manual 1IntroductionThank you for purchasing the Alesis S4 Plus 64 Voice Sound Module. To take fulladvantage of the S4 Plus’s functi
Connections: Chapter 3S4 Plus Reference Manual 19CHAPTER 3CONNECTIONSBasic MIDI HookupMIDI is an internationally-accepted protocol that allows musical
Chapter 3: Connections20 S4 Plus Reference ManualUsing the S4 in Live PerformanceDepending on the capabilities of your MIDI controller keyboard, you h
Connections: Chapter 3S4 Plus Reference Manual 21Using an External SequencerThe MIDI keyboard or controller (such as the QuadraSynth Plus) can generat
Chapter 3: Connections22 S4 Plus Reference ManualDigital Audio/Optical HookupThe S4 Plus can send digital audio directly into ADAT, which provides bet
Overview: Chapter 4S4 Plus Reference Manual 23CHAPTER 4OVERVIEWBasic ArchitectureThe S4 Plus contains digitized acoustic and electronic voices, organi
Chapter 4: Overview24 S4 Plus Reference ManualModesThe S4 Plus is always in one of two main modes: Program Mode or Mix Mode.Pressing [PROGRAM] selects
Overview: Chapter 4S4 Plus Reference Manual 25• select which Programs will be played by the different MIDI channels and by thekeyboard in multiple lay
Chapter 4: Overview26 S4 Plus Reference ManualThe User Interface: Display, Functions, Pages, andParametersThe key to the S4 Plus user interface is the
Overview: Chapter 4S4 Plus Reference Manual 27• Name strip. When in Mix Play Mode, the name of the currently selected Mix willappear here. Likewise, w
Chapter 4: Overview28 S4 Plus Reference ManualParameter EditingAll parameter editing involves the same general procedure, with minor variations:¿ Sele
Overview: Chapter 4S4 Plus Reference Manual 29Editing Program ParametersHere is an example of how to use the S4 Plus’s editing features to change Prog
Chapter 4: Overview30 S4 Plus Reference ManualEdit 4 and Edit 1 ModesA Program is made up of four sounds. Sometimes, you need to edit four variables o
Overview: Chapter 4S4 Plus Reference Manual 31Comparing Edited and Stored VersionsWhen you edit a Program or Mix, you are actually editing a copy whic
Chapter 4: Overview32 S4 Plus Reference ManualStoringThe [STORE] button selects Store mode. Store mode has 6 pages which you canscroll through by usin
Overview: Chapter 4S4 Plus Reference Manual 33Copying Effects Between ProgramsFollow the steps below to copy the Effects from one Program to another P
Chapter 4: Overview34 S4 Plus Reference ManualTo Audition Programs Before StoringTo look for available memory locations to permanently store your Prog
Overview: Chapter 4S4 Plus Reference Manual 35To audition Programs before overwriting them with STORE…when editing a Program in Mix Edit Mode:¿ While
Chapter 4: Overview36 S4 Plus Reference Manual
Editing Mixes: Chapter 5S4 Plus Reference Manual 37CHAPTER 5EDITING MIXESWhat is a Mix?Mix Mode is one of the most powerful features of the S4 Plus. W
Chapter 5: Editing Mixes38 S4 Plus Reference Manualusing the FUNCTION [¨] and [Æ] buttons and (if necessary) the PAGE [¨] and [Æ]buttons. A Mix also u
IndexS4 Plus Reference Manual 3CONTENTS1: Setting Up ...
Editing Mixes: Chapter 5S4 Plus Reference Manual 39Program Assign for each MIDI ChannelThe first function of Mix Edit is Program Assign.Program Bank (
Chapter 5: Editing Mixes40 S4 Plus Reference ManualPitchThe Pitch function lets you transpose a channel’s Program in either semitone oroctave incremen
Editing Mixes: Chapter 5S4 Plus Reference Manual 41Range (Page 2)MIDI In (On or Off)This determines whether or not the selected channel will respond t
Chapter 5: Editing Mixes42 S4 Plus Reference ManualEffects in Mix Play ModeIn Mix Play Mode, you can have only one Effect Patch active per Mix, which
Editing Mixes: Chapter 5S4 Plus Reference Manual 43indicates that, although the Effects Patch number coincides with the Program numberon the Effects C
Chapter 5: Editing Mixes44 S4 Plus Reference ManualPlaying a Group of Channels in a MixIn Program Play Mode, you can use the MIDI [¨] and [Æ] buttons
Editing Programs: Chapter 6S4 Plus Reference Manual 45CHAPTER 6EDITING PROGRAMSOverviewSynthesizer programming is the art and science of shaping sound
Chapter 6: Editing Programs46 S4 Plus Reference Manualinterface maintains the metaphor of “modules,” in fact all sounds are simply a set ofnumbers ref
Editing Programs: Chapter 6S4 Plus Reference Manual 47• When you want different sounds to respond to different MIDI channels.S4 Plus Signal FlowThe Fo
Chapter 6: Editing Programs48 S4 Plus Reference ManualVoiceThis digitally-based oscillator provides the actual raw sounds from the 24 megabytelibrary
Index4 S4 Plus Reference ManualStoring ...
Editing Programs: Chapter 6S4 Plus Reference Manual 49Each voice/filter combination is followed by an amplifier whose level can be controlledby a vari
Chapter 6: Editing Programs50 S4 Plus Reference ManualLFO (Low Frequency Oscillator)The pitch, filter, and amp modules each have a dedicated LFO modul
Editing Programs: Chapter 6S4 Plus Reference Manual 51one of the four effect buses. Effects settings, Effect Level and Bus information issaved with th
Chapter 6: Editing Programs52 S4 Plus Reference ManualWhen Drum Mode is enabled, the sound will have fewer parameters for editing.Consequently, not al
Editing Programs: Chapter 6S4 Plus Reference Manual 53OrganFullDrwbar, 3 Drawbars, Jazz Tone, Percus 2nd, Percus 3rd, Mellow, DrtyChurch, 60’sComboKey
Chapter 6: Editing Programs54 S4 Plus Reference ManualLevelEach sound in a program can have its own level, pan position, and outputassignment. With up
Editing Programs: Chapter 6S4 Plus Reference Manual 55Detune Type (Normal or Equal)With Normal selected, the percentage of detuning remains the same o
Chapter 6: Editing Programs56 S4 Plus Reference ManualPortamento (Exponential, Linear, 1 Speed)This provides the sweep’s “curve.”• With an exponential
Editing Programs: Chapter 6S4 Plus Reference Manual 57FilterFilter (Page 1)Frequency (00 to 99)This sets the filter's initial cutoff frequency. L
Chapter 6: Editing Programs58 S4 Plus Reference ManualFilter (Page 2)Modulation Wheel Depth (-99 to +99)Determines how moving the modulation wheel aff
IndexS4 Plus Reference Manual 5Amp Envelope... 82Copyi
Editing Programs: Chapter 6S4 Plus Reference Manual 59AmpVelocity Curve (13 choices)This selects how the sound will respond to the dynamics of your pl
Chapter 6: Editing Programs60 S4 Plus Reference ManualAt +00, the Amp LFO has no effect. Higher positive values increase the amount ofLFO modulation.
Editing Programs: Chapter 6S4 Plus Reference Manual 61Sound Overlap (00 to 99)This determines how many voices can overlap on the same pitch. Example:
Chapter 6: Editing Programs62 S4 Plus Reference ManualModAbout General Purpose ModulationAlthough there are several dedicated modulators in the S4 Plu
Editing Programs: Chapter 6S4 Plus Reference Manual 63• Aftertouch Pressing on the keys after they’re down generates this controlsignal. Aftertouch
Chapter 6: Editing Programs64 S4 Plus Reference Manual• Controllers (A, B, C, D) Four incoming MIDI controllers can be recognized bythe S4 Plus and
Editing Programs: Chapter 6S4 Plus Reference Manual 65Pitch LFOPitch LFO (Page 1)The Pitch LFO is most often used to apply vibrato to a sound.JThe fol
Chapter 6: Editing Programs66 S4 Plus Reference Manualand at the same speed. Because of this, modulating the LFO Speed using a voice-specific source (
Editing Programs: Chapter 6S4 Plus Reference Manual 67Filter LFOFilter LFO (Page 1)The Filter LFO is most often used to apply tremolo-like or "wa
Chapter 6: Editing Programs68 S4 Plus Reference ManualMod Wheel (-99 to 99)This parameter sets how much the Mod Wheel will increase or decrease the Fi
Index6 S4 Plus Reference ManualChannel Messages: Mode Messages ... 126Channel Messages: Vo
Editing Programs: Chapter 6S4 Plus Reference Manual 69Amp LFO (Page 2)Level (00 to 99)This is the base output level of the Amp LFO. If you want to hav
Chapter 6: Editing Programs70 S4 Plus Reference ManualDecay & Sustain (00 to 99)As soon as the attack portion of the envelope finishes (when the l
Editing Programs: Chapter 6S4 Plus Reference Manual 71which triggered the envelope’s cycle, playing another note in the middle would notinterrupt the
Chapter 6: Editing Programs72 S4 Plus Reference ManualVelocity Modulation (00 to 99)This determines how keyboard dynamics will affect the envelope lev
Editing Programs: Chapter 6S4 Plus Reference Manual 73Filter Envelope (Page 2)Delay (00 to 99)This is the amount of time that the envelope will wait b
Chapter 6: Editing Programs74 S4 Plus Reference ManualSustain Pedal (On or Off)This determines whether or not the Sustain Pedal will have an effect on
Editing Programs: Chapter 6S4 Plus Reference Manual 75level until you release the note on the keyboard, or decay to 0 at the Sustain Decayrate (which
Chapter 6: Editing Programs76 S4 Plus Reference ManualTime Tracking (On or Off)This determines whether or not keyboard position will affect the cycle
Editing Programs: Chapter 6S4 Plus Reference Manual 77Tracking GeneratorThe Tracking Generator is used to scale a modulation source. For example, norm
Chapter 6: Editing Programs78 S4 Plus Reference Manualgenerator. You can patch the Mod Wheel somewhere else in addition to the TrackingGenerator, givi
Setting Up: Chapter 1S4 Plus Reference Manual 7CHAPTER 1SETTING UPUnpacking and InspectionYour S4 Plus was packed carefully at the factory. The shippi
Editing Programs: Chapter 6S4 Plus Reference Manual 79Misc.Drum ModeThis enables and disables Drum Mode which allows you to assign individual drumsoun
Chapter 6: Editing Programs80 S4 Plus Reference ManualProgramming Drum SoundsTo program a sound in Drum Mode, you must first enable Drum Mode for that
Editing Programs: Chapter 6S4 Plus Reference Manual 81To send a drum to an individual output, use Output in conjunction with Pan. Example:Panning a dr
Chapter 6: Editing Programs82 S4 Plus Reference ManualNote (000 to 127/C-2 to G8)Each drum can be assigned to a single note which will trigger the dru
Editing Programs: Chapter 6S4 Plus Reference Manual 83Copying SoundsWhile editing a Program, it is helpful to be able to copy a sound to another sound
Chapter 6: Editing Programs84 S4 Plus Reference ManualTo re-initialize the S4 Plus:¿ Press [PROGRAM] to enter Program mode.¡ Turn the unit off.¬ While
Editing Effects: Chapter 7S4 Plus Reference Manual 85CHAPTER 7EDITING EFFECTSAbout Signal ProcessingThe built-in effects processor of the S4 Plus is s
Chapter 7: Editing Effects86 S4 Plus Reference ManualSelecting Effects in Mix ModeEach Program has its own effects that are recalled when you select a
Editing Effects: Chapter 7S4 Plus Reference Manual 87ClipWhile routing sounds into the effects processor, the word “CLIP” will temporarilyappear in th
Chapter 7: Editing Effects88 S4 Plus Reference ManualStoring Effect Patches In Program ModeEffects are an extension of a Program. So, when you store a
Chapter 1: Setting Up8 S4 Plus Reference ManualLine Conditioners and ProtectorsAlthough the S4 Plus is designed to tolerate typical voltage variations
Editing Effects: Chapter 7S4 Plus Reference Manual 89Copying Effect PatchesWhen you want a Program to use the Effects from a different Program, you mu
Chapter 7: Editing Effects90 S4 Plus Reference ManualConfiguration #1: 4-Sends, 1 ReverbPITCH 1FX SEND 1FX SEND 2AUX LEFTAUX RIGHTMAIN LEFTMAIN RIGHTA
Editing Effects: Chapter 7S4 Plus Reference Manual 91This Configuration #1 provides three Pitch effects, four Delay effects and one Reverbeffect. The
Chapter 7: Editing Effects92 S4 Plus Reference ManualConfiguration #2: 4-Sends, 2 ReverbFX SEND 1FX SEND 2AUX LEFTAUX RIGHTMAIN LEFTMAIN RIGHTAUX LEFT
Editing Effects: Chapter 7S4 Plus Reference Manual 93Configuration #3: 4-Sends, 1 LezlieLEZLIEFX SEND 1FX SEND 2AUX LEFTAUX RIGHTMAIN LEFTMAIN RIGHTAU
Chapter 7: Editing Effects94 S4 Plus Reference ManualConfiguration #4: 2-Sends, with EQAUX LEFTAUX RIGHTMAIN LEFTMAIN RIGHTAUX LEFTAUX RIGHTMAIN LEFTM
Editing Effects: Chapter 7S4 Plus Reference Manual 95Configuration #5: OD>CHS>DDL>REV>LZAUX LEFTAUX RIGHTMAIN LEFTMAIN RIGHTAUX LEFTAUX RI
Chapter 7: Editing Effects96 S4 Plus Reference ManualReverbReverb can be thought of as a great number of distinct echoes, called reflections, thatoccu
Editing Effects: Chapter 7S4 Plus Reference Manual 97Input levelQuad Knob [4] controls the overall Input Level going into the Reverb.Chorus Input Leve
Chapter 7: Editing Effects98 S4 Plus Reference ManualIf Configuration #2 is selected and you press [EDIT 1] to advance to effect send 2while the Rever
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